2013/09/09

積極操作的藝術 The Art of Aggressive Trading

(奇摩原貼:2013/06/15)

最近有一篇彭博社 (bloomberg) 報導:
負面新聞主人翁 Paul Tudor Jones 和我文章裡常提到的 Van K. Tharp, 都是早年 (1980年代) 曾經入選操作經典 --- Market Wizard 這本書裡被訪問過的成功交易者 (想學習就要學這種真正的贏家, 而不是神人老師的胡亂吹), 相隔幾十年過後, 目前仍舊保持成功而活躍於金融交易圈, 光以操作這點來論, 是很值得佩服與學習的人物, 以下便擷取一些我認為他早年受訪 (攻擊性操作的藝術 The Art of Aggressive Trading) 時的關鍵談話, 有些還甚至加上我的中文評論:
1. First of all, never play macho man with the market. Second, never overtrade.
第二點說的絕不交易過量, 在台灣的期權市場裡, 有很多人都是犯這種錯誤而爆倉畢業; [不過量交易] 需要管理, 但值得管理的資金要有一定程度的大 (個人認為至少要NTD百萬), 可是神人魯蛇為了廣收學生教學賺錢, 鼓吹小資10萬台幣就可以月賺10%
2. I had to learn discipline and money management. It was a cathartic experience for me, in the sense that I went to the edge, questioned my very ability as a trader, and decided that I was not going to quit. I was determined to come back and fight. I decided that I was going to become very disciplined and businesslike about my trading.
3. Q: What is the most prominent fallacy in the public's perception about markets?
A: That markets can be manipulated. That there is some group on Wall Street that controls price action in the markets.
台股的操作者也老是認為, 股價和指數是主力或黑手在控制的, Jones認為這是最大的錯誤觀念
4. I want to make sure that I never have a double-digit loss in any month.
5. Decrease your trading volume when you are trading poorly; increase your volume when you are trading well. Never trade in situations where you don't have control. For example, I don't risk significant amounts of money in front of key reports, since that is gambling, not trading.
6. If you have a losing position that is making you uncomfortable, the solution is very simple: Get out, because you can always get back in. There is nothing better than a fresh start.
7. Don't be too concerned about where you got into a position. The only relevant question is whether you are bullish or bearish on the position that day. Always think of your entry point as last night's close.
8. Quicker and more defensive. I am always thinking about losing money as opposed to making money.
9. I view anything that has happened up to the present point in time as history. I really don't care about the mistake I made three seconds ago in the market. What I care about is what I am going to do from the next moment on. I try to avoid any emotional attachment to a market. I avoid letting my trading opinions be influenced by comments I may have made on the record about a market.
能夠以操作為生最重要的關鍵點在此
10. I know from studying history that credit eventually kills all great societies. Reagan made sure that the economy would be great during his term in office by borrowing our way into prosperity. We borrowed against the future, and soon we will have to pay.
任何偉大的社會最終將被信用問題摧毀, 歐巴馬政府用印鈔等...胡亂干預的手段, 比雷根政府時期嚴重N倍, 也是早晚要付出代價的
11. Q: Do you use trading systems at all?
A: We have tested every system under the sun and, amazingly, we have found one that actually works well.
Q: What type of realm does it fall into: contrarian? trend following?
A: Trend following.When you get a range expansion, the market is sending you a very loud, clear signal that the market is getting ready to move in the direction of that expansion.
順勢系統總是成功交易者的優先選擇, 波動變大的方向即是未來的方向
12. I always believe that prices move first and fundamentals come second.
股價比基本面先行
13. When I trade, I don't just use a price stop, I also use a time stop. If I think a market should break, and it doesn't, I will often get out even if I am not losing any money.
要價格停損, 也要時間停損, 該發生的事情沒發生, 肯定有鬼
14. Q: Do you believe that is because it takes talent to be a good trader?
A: I never thought that before, but I am starting to believe that now. One of my weaknesses is that I always tend to be too optimistic, particularly about the ability of other people to succeed.
這是我在所寫的文裡反覆提到: 有志交易者的第一件事是認識自己, 裡面我也借用Tharp的評估結果畫了一條標準線, 低於這個標準的人, 意味著您的優缺點若用於操作上, 即使做到發揮強項 & 降低弱項帶來的損失, 很可能還是無法達到 [賺大賠小] 的原則, 代表您不適合做操作, 專心於您自己的本業才是最賺的, 畢竟操作這一行和其他行業一樣, 不是每個人都合適進來的; 但神人魯蛇為了賺學費, 只要願意繳錢給他的學生他都收
15. Don't focus on making money; focus on protecting what you have.
16. Closely monitor the performance of his entire portfolio in real-time. If his total equity drops 1 to 2 percent during a single trading session, he might well liquidate all of his positions instantaneously to cut his risk. "It is always easier to get back in than to get out"

9 則留言 :

  1. 承貼文前言
    1.值得管理的資金要有一定程度的大
    A:美國FED印鈔資金無限(無黃金儲備作抵押等於是空頭支票)
    2.任何偉大的社會最終將被信用問題摧毀, 歐巴馬政府用印鈔等...胡亂干預的手段, 比雷根政府 時期嚴重N倍, 也是早晚要付出代價的
    A:今美國QE已退場,下次再遇金融風暴,在要付出代價之際,再次大量印鈔
    等事過之後,美國毫髮無傷,世界各國也拿美國政府沒辦法
    這是制度規範,不公平的問題
    所以有霸氣就有霸權,有霸權就是顯示國力
    怪不得世界上那麼多恐怖分子

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    1. 時間是關鍵因素, 長短無人可預料

      或許真付出代價那時, 你我皆無緣得見, 也說不定啊 ha...

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    2. 只要國力強,甚至入侵佔領
      就平安無事
      日本經濟從1990年起失落20年
      今安倍經濟學大量印鈔
      日圓大貶,有利出口賺飽外匯
      到付出代價那時
      用政策將日圓升值回來
      就平安無事
      強國 嘛

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    3. 安倍上台日幣大貶, 持續發生超過1年以上了, 但是您說的有利於出口, 還沒有實際發生, 所以前陣子日幣再貶, 這次要看看效果如何

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    4. 有利於出口, 還沒有實際發生, 所以前陣子日幣再貶

      這就是日本的QE2.......
      不要對日本太苛薄,日幣貶1年多
      美元貶5年,實施QE共6年,取得成效今才退場
      美日的政策,不是你我能主導

      反正停止金本位制的印鈔
      又是國際認同流通貨幣
      這是制度規範的問題

      美日不會倒
      你唱衰美日也沒用

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    5. 我不知道自己有在唱衰美日耶! 可以請您指出來嗎? 我都糊塗了 哈哈

      既然美日的政策,不是你我能主導, 請不要繼續執著, 換個議題討論看看

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    6. 1.任何偉大的社會最終將被信用問題摧毀, 歐巴馬政府用印鈔等...胡亂干預的手段, 比雷根政府時期嚴重N倍, 也是早晚要付出代價的
      2.安倍上台日幣大貶, 持續發生超過1年以上了, 但是有利於出口, 還沒有實際發生

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    7. 指出如下:
      2013/09/09 下午6:47
      1.任何偉大的社會最終將被信用問題摧毀, 歐巴馬政府用印鈔等...胡亂干預的手段, 比雷根政府時期嚴重N倍, 也是早晚要付出代價的
      2014年12月20日 上午7:35
      2.安倍上台日幣大貶, 持續發生超過1年以上了, 但是有利於出口, 還沒有實際發生

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    8. 謝謝您指出此2點, 或許我的表達不好, 讓您給誤會了

      1. 第一句是Paul Tudor Jones的原話, 後面是我衍生其意的自我看法, 每個人都對任何事情有各種主觀評價, 我不覺得評價不同就可被概略為有負面意味的 [唱衰]

      2. 這是目前事實的敘述, 而且也說了: 前陣子日幣再貶, 這次要看看效果如何; 我不覺得 [目前事實的敘述] 就可被結論成有負面意味的 [唱衰]

      不過, 仍然謝謝您的指正, 看來我的文意表達仍有很大進步的空間啊

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